Digital Research Forum Read Menu Read 5 SUBJECT Enter choice !5 Enter subject: drdos #: 7068 S2/DRDOS 25-Jun-91 20:50:58 Sb: #MS-DOS 5.0 vs DRDOS 5.0 Fm: RON KOSAR 70650,235 To: Loyd Clayton 73310,3505 (X) The DRDOS _is_ much more solid than MSDOS5, since I've used both. DRDOS is more forgiving. We use it across multiple platforms: Compaq, Zen ith, IBM, PS-2, Swan, ALR, no problems to speak of. Also, DRI's next release is heads and shoulders above MSDOS5. There is 1 Reply. #: 7107 S1/ASK THE SYSOP 26-Jun-91 22:34:41 Sb: #DRDOS 5 & Norton Diskree Fm: David S. Roberts 70431,3676 To: Steve McNabb 76703,615 (X) Hi Steve, Have you or anyone else used Norton 5.0 Diskreet.sys with DRDOS? I had played with it a while back under a different OS without problems. Yesterday I attempted to create an encrypted partition and the creation process would fail. This is probably a Norton problem that may be OK in NU 6.0 ( my copy on order ) but I was just curious. David There is 1 Reply. #: 7121 S2/DRDOS 27-Jun-91 07:10:13 Sb: #7068-MS-DOS 5.0 vs DRDOS 5.0 Fm: brian j. mullan 72247,1556 To: RON KOSAR 70650,235 (X) You ought to take the time to leave that message in the Microsoft MSDOS v5.0 compatibility forum. DRI needs satisfied users to voice their opinions to fish that are being caught by Msoft and Mr. Bill. #: 7131 S1/ASK THE SYSOP 27-Jun-91 16:41:36 Sb: #7107-#DRDOS 5 & Norton Diskree Fm: Steve McNabb 76703,615 To: David S. Roberts 70431,3676 (X) David- I have not heard that Diskreet fails under DRDOS. Are you using EMM386? Are you using 2/91 DRDOS files? Steve.. There is 1 Reply. #: 7135 S2/DRDOS 27-Jun-91 16:58:46 Sb: #DRDOS/Packard Bell Fm: Bob Ackerman 76226,443 To: ALL Has any problems with DR-DOS and floppy drives on laptops been reported? We have a Packard Bell 286 Notebook (20 Meg) and whenever the floppy drive is requested the system always instructs the user to insert the proper diskette into the drive. The diskette was already in the drive. This sounds like the MS-DOS drive A & B in one drive problem, but it is not. We are only using as drive A: and no requests for drive B:. Packard Bell Tech Support has advised us that the problem is in DR-DOS. But, with running DR-DOS with a few other machines here we do not have that problem. Any suggests or comments? There is 1 Reply. #: 7138 S2/DRDOS 27-Jun-91 20:48:39 Sb: #DRDOS 5.0 vs MSDOS 5.0 Fm: charles holmes 71441,115 To: Sysop (X) To all: Please offer a comparison between DRDOS 5.0 and MSDOS 5.0. All the hype seems to be centering around Gates and their new product vs DRDOS which has been out much longer. Also, what will DRDOS 6.0 contain to better the MSDOS entry? Thanks. CMH There is 1 Reply. #: 7146 S2/DRDOS 27-Jun-91 23:07:49 Sb: #7138-#DRDOS 5.0 vs MSDOS 5.0 Fm: Bob King 76244,24 To: charles holmes 71441,115 Charles - DRI has been handing out in NY at PC EXPO all week a 2-sided sheet comparing DR DOS 5.0 and MS DOS 5.0, feature by feature. Pretty good and alomst complete (found an item or 2 missing). I have asked the Sysop here to see if that could be scanned in to a Lib here for downloading by interested parties. T'would be a lot to type. Let me tell you, as most of us have discovered in doing our own comparisons, DR DOS wins. Also, in July 91 PC WORLD MS DOS 5.0 reviewer who is favorable to MS 5 says DR DOS does lot more, although out almost a year earlier. He also claims that MS did ver 5 because DRI did such a great job on DR 5 and they couldn't let it pass unchallenged, but didn't surpass it! -Bob There is 1 Reply. #: 7149 S2/DRDOS 28-Jun-91 01:33:07 Sb: XTG/Lantasti & DRDOS Fm: larry james 72667,3642 To: Anthony Carr 76366,1666 (X) When using DRDOS accross a network with XTGOLD, I don't get all the directories and files on the display on the network drives. Only on the local drive. Is there some patch or configuration to remedy this? The network I'm using is Lantasti. Thanks for any comments. -- Larry #: 7157 S2/DRDOS 28-Jun-91 04:58:21 Sb: #7135-#DRDOS/Packard Bell Fm: Bill Hill, PC Wizard's W 70025,1621 To: Bob Ackerman 76226,443 (X) Bob, Try DRIVPARMs first, and if that doesn't work, try DRIVER.sys. One or the other of those should do the trick. Good luck. Bill, PCWW. There is 1 Reply. #: 7158 S2/DRDOS 28-Jun-91 04:58:28 Sb: #7146-#DRDOS 5.0 vs MSDOS 5.0 Fm: Bill Hill, PC Wizard's W 70025,1621 To: Bob King 76244,24 (X) Bob, Scan it in?! I hope to heck it is already on disk somewhere in text format. This is a computer software company we're talking about, isn't it. . I understand DRI had a number of people busily working on that to get it ready in time for the show. I am going to be doing a comparison for our local computer club meeting in July and the DRI area rep. promised me some copies. Bill, PCWW. There is 1 Reply. #: 7162 S2/DRDOS 28-Jun-91 08:22:51 Sb: #7158-DRDOS 5.0 vs MSDOS 5.0 Fm: Bob King 76244,24 To: Bill Hill, PC Wizard's W 70025,1621 (X) Bill - Yeah - well you know the story about the shoemaker's kids - it should be on disk somewhere. In any case, get ahold of your DRI rep and bug him for some copies - it is out! -Bob #: 7169 S2/DRDOS 28-Jun-91 13:30:41 Sb: #7157-DRDOS/Packard Bell Fm: Bob Ackerman 76226,443 To: Bill Hill, PC Wizard's W 70025,1621 (X) Thanks. We have discovered the problem, just after I left the message. It seems that the program he was using, told the system to go to B:, which was not there, so the system used the only floppy as B:. But, not insert disk prompt appeared. Maybe the program handled it. When he finally went to A:, DOS popped a message to insert the diskette in. This was causing all of the problems. Well, it was related to the software and the problem is now identifed and solved. Thanks for the reply. #: 7189 S1/ASK THE SYSOP 28-Jun-91 20:17:35 Sb: #7131-#DRDOS 5 & Norton Diskree Fm: David S. Roberts 70431,3676 To: Steve McNabb 76703,615 (X) Hi Steve, I found the problem with Diskreet (Norton). It had nothing to do with DRDOS. I have been testing a shareware cache program called Hyperdisk, from MSOPSYS forum (forget what lib). It seems that Diskreet and Hyperdisk do not play together. I seem to have no problem using an existing Diskreet partition but I get a hard lockup (red button type) when I try to create a new Diskreet partition with Hyperdisk loaded. The result is the same if I disable the cache before attempting to create the new partition. I must boot without loading Hyperdisk for a successful create. Please pass this info to anyone who may use both of these otherwise fine programs. David There is 1 Reply. #: 7198 S2/DRDOS 29-Jun-91 00:53:25 Sb: #Slow DRDOS Fm: Roland Hughes 71061,2160 To: Loyd Clayton 73310,3505 (X) Loyd, If you are using disk manager, get rid of it. I had an old copy that made a 286 crawl with DRD5. Rather than go through the hassel of getting a new version of DM (mine was 1985 I think?) I just gave up 4 meg on each drive, reformatting with DRD5. It hums now. Roland There is 1 Reply. #: 7216 S2/DRDOS 29-Jun-91 11:11:55 Sb: #who said drdos v5 @$29 Fm: brian j. mullan 72247,1556 To: all Many folks on the Microsoft MSDOS v5.0 forum were extremely interested in some remarks I left that some folks on DRFORUM had recently purchased DRDOS v5.0 at CompUSA (I think) for $29 or $39. If whoever left those messages here on DRFORUM could leave that info on the MICROSOFT MSDOS v5.0 forum in the COMPATIBILITY section I think DRI could gain alot of new users of DRDOS v5 right now... hee hee There are 2 Replies. #: 7218 S2/DRDOS 29-Jun-91 12:50:55 Sb: DRDOS w/4DOS Fm: John McGing 70142,1357 To: all I'm playing with 4DOS on my DRDOS 5 equipped unit. It adds a lot, and I like it. Anyone here have any experiences with it, good or bad? Suggestions? Things like DRDOS's TREE command is better than 4DOS's? I get 6K more memory than with command.com, so I think I'll be registering it, but would like to hear any advice that anyone may have on this. Thanks John #: 7220 S2/DRDOS 29-Jun-91 13:36:53 Sb: #7216-who said drdos v5 @$29 Fm: Bob King 76244,24 To: brian j. mullan 72247,1556 (X) Brian - Of course, you would have to leave that message at least once a day to have it read - their messages are scrolling off so fast! -Bob #: 7229 S2/DRDOS 29-Jun-91 17:26:00 Sb: #7216-#who said drdos v5 @$29 Fm: David S. Roberts 70431,3676 To: brian j. mullan 72247,1556 (X) Hi Brian, I left 'one of' the original messages. I already had my copy ($78.00) when I saw the display. CompUSA in Vienna Virginia had a large display offering the 'toss your dos' package for $29.95. I assume it is still available for that price. Their number is (703) 749-4450. David There is 1 Reply. #: 7230 S2/DRDOS 29-Jun-91 19:12:33 Sb: #7229-#who said drdos v5 @$29 Fm: brian j. mullan 72247,1556 To: David S. Roberts 70431,3676 (X) Thanks David... there were alot of fish that got messdos v5 that wanted to know how to get DRDOS v5 for the $29. However, I wasn't real sure about the store name etc. Thanks for putting the message on the Microsoft msdos v5 forum section. There is 1 Reply. #: 7242 S2/DRDOS 30-Jun-91 02:02:28 Sb: DRDOS5 on AST 286 Fm: Jeffrey C Kreinbring 75610,541 To: Anybody Just purchased DRDOS under $30 upgrade program instead of MSDOS. Anybody found any incompatibilities running it on an AST Premium 286, with AST BIOS? #: 7247 S2/DRDOS 30-Jun-91 04:41:20 Sb: #7230-#who said drdos v5 @$29 Fm: Bill Hill, PC Wizard's W 70025,1621 To: brian j. mullan 72247,1556 (X) Brian, Yeah, some stores that used to be called Soft Warehouse are now CompUSAs. It seems like all the CompUSAs are having this special. You just have to ask for the "Toss Your DOS" upgrade pkg. or they quote you the full package price (around $135., I think). The Norcross, GA (Atlanta area) store is also selling them at $30. Bill, PCWW. There are 2 Replies. #: 7269 S2/DRDOS 30-Jun-91 18:19:29 Sb: #7247-#who said drdos v5 @$29 Fm: Steve Strout 72260,2042 To: Bill Hill, PC Wizard's W 70025,1621 (X) Another voice... CompUSA (softwarehouse) up in Washington D.C. has the $29.00 DR Dos. They also had some de-engineered clone for $39.00. Guess which one has the big flashy display though. I helped people when I could, but couldn't stay all day long. Just out of curiosity, with 6.0 just around the proverbial corner; do I, a valued customer and staunch supporter, get an upgrade at reasonable price? (I suppose reasonable depends on which side of the transaction you're on ) ............Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 7281 S2/DRDOS 30-Jun-91 23:31:27 Sb: #7269-#who said drdos v5 @$29 Fm: Bill Hill, PC Wizard's W 70025,1621 To: Steve Strout 72260,2042 (X) Steve, I am not with DRI and am hoping for a *VERRRY* reasonable upgrade price to v.6 as I ain't mr. gotrocks either. We'll all know soon enough. Thanks for trying to bring pearls to swine... Bill, PCWW. There are 2 Replies. #: 7295 S2/DRDOS 01-Jul-91 05:47:56 Sb: #7247-who said drdos v5 @$29 Fm: brian j. mullan 72247,1556 To: Bill Hill, PC Wizard's W 70025,1621 (X) Well you need to mention that on the Microsoft MsDos v5 COMPATIBILITY forum section. Several people that responded to my original message about the $29 price said they called their local CompUSA store and were still quoted the $79 price. #: 7306 S1/ASK THE SYSOP 01-Jul-91 16:39:02 Sb: #7189-DRDOS 5 & Norton Diskree Fm: Steve McNabb 76703,615 To: David S. Roberts 70431,3676 (X) Thanks for the info David... Steve.. #: 7312 S2/DRDOS 01-Jul-91 17:05:56 Sb: #7281-#who said drdos v5 @$29 Fm: Bob King 76244,24 To: Bill Hill, PC Wizard's W 70025,1621 (X) Bill - Are you calling those people over there in MSDOS forum `swine' - ? Could a price war be going on - and continued with DR 6? -Bob BTW - the word about 2 wks ago was that a bug was discovered in PCT 7 and that is why the mailed upgrades are being held up - even though bunches were produced & delivered to stores. Could be that, if the story is true. There are 2 Replies. #: 7316 S2/DRDOS 01-Jul-91 18:09:19 Sb: #Slow DRDOS Fm: Steve McNabb 76703,615 To: Loyd Clayton 73310,3505 (X) Loyd- Try using the IBMBIO.ZIP file in Library 2. It may help. Steve.. There is 1 Reply. #: 7338 S2/DRDOS 01-Jul-91 20:02:18 Sb: #7281-#who said drdos v5 @$29 Fm: Steve Strout 72260,2042 To: Bill Hill, PC Wizard's W 70025,1621 (X) Bill, I deduced from the name that you weren't DRI. Just another nice guy... Is there a way we can develop some momentum toward low $ upgrades? Perhaps we could pester Bob King. He's clever. BTW what do you do? I've assumed PCWW is some sort of computer - software service or retailer. Helping people for free < REALLY REALLY APPRECIATED > doesn't do much for groceries. .....Steve There are 2 Replies. #: 7350 S2/DRDOS 01-Jul-91 23:19:40 Sb: #7338-who said drdos v5 @$29 Fm: Bob King 76244,24 To: Steve Strout 72260,2042 (X) Steve - Don't pester me! I have no influence with DRI - although Steve McKnabb said once I was funny (maybe he saw my picture). I'm also just one of the loyal DRI fans lurking around here because we like to help people and once in a while we do I am told (although that might be a rumor) Seriously, several of us have left hints about the next upgrade prices and if the DOS WARS continue, maybe they will be quite low as Egghead and CompUSA are now doing - although us resellers can't make any money on it! -Bob BTW ALL - COMPUSA (ne softwarehouse) in Phila advertised in Sunday's Inquirer that DR DOS UPGRADE is $29.95! #: 7352 S2/DRDOS 01-Jul-91 23:30:01 Sb: #drdos & GEM & qemm Fm: #VCO,PB,DT,+ 74 73236,314 To: all I have just installed DRDOS on my 386. I have removed QEMM and I was trying to use EMM for a relocater which it does fine but I have a difficult time trying to find the magical combination of files in order to maximize the use of upper memory. Will the next version be a little easier to maximize space. PS I don't like using QEMM because it doesn't appear to like extended applications(cache vdisk). Seems like EXT= in their book acts opposite in the computer I would prefer to use EMM if I could restructure upper memory easier(i.e. I don't want to be a manual "optimize" program Also I am running GEM applications from a pulldowm menu system. When I was using 3.3 I put a command to call GEM as COMMAND /c gem. This way when I exited from GEM it would return to the pulldown menu. It didn't like it in drdos so I looked a little farther and discovered that I was creating a secondary command processor that takes up room. How can I call GEM.bat from another menu program so it will restart the menu system when I exit GEM. Last question, do you plan on giving the ability to Viewmax to create new custom icons. There is 1 Reply. #: 7358 S2/DRDOS 02-Jul-91 02:20:30 Sb: #7312-#who said drdos v5 @$29 Fm: Bill Hill, PC Wizard's W 70025,1621 To: Bob King 76244,24 (X) Bob, No, I didn't call people on forum swine. Fellow I was responding to said he hung around his local CompUSA trying to redirect little piggys looking for MesS-DOS 5 to even better DR DOS 5 at fire sale price. Was just thanking him for his efforts. Bill, PCWW. There are 2 Replies. #: 7359 S2/DRDOS 02-Jul-91 02:20:40 Sb: #7338-who said drdos v5 @$29 Fm: Bill Hill, PC Wizard's W 70025,1621 To: Steve Strout 72260,2042 (X) Steve, Thanks! I just really like DR DOS and have used it for several years (since v.3.3x) and feel it needs a few boosters to help it get going. Other Steve (SYSOP) can't be here all the time. And some questions are too political for him to answer anyway. If DRD 6 is anything like what we're hearing about, it will be worth another $100. or so to me. PCWW stands for PC Wizard's Workshop (too long for name block in head) and I will do anything that will stand still for it. Write custom DB apps., sell hardware, system integration, shrink-wrapped software etc. BTW, if you need anything, don't hesitate to ask. I am not averse to making a little $$ via CI$. Not the best price you can get, but try to give good service. Bill. #: 7361 S2/DRDOS 02-Jul-91 04:25:19 Sb: #7358-#who said drdos v5 @$29 Fm: brian j. mullan 72247,1556 To: Bill Hill, PC Wizard's W 70025,1621 (X) better to call them 'fish' than use the swine word... fish are "lured" to artificial "baits" and then hauled in. I like to think of people that purchase messdos v5. as fish that buy into the wrong product simply because msoft sells it, without examining DRDOS as an alternative. There is 1 Reply. #: 7362 S2/DRDOS 02-Jul-91 05:33:31 Sb: #7312-#who said drdos v5 @$29 Fm: Bill Hill, PC Wizard's W 70025,1621 To: Bob King 76244,24 (X) Bob, I have had my PCT 7 upgrade for about a week. As far as I know it is a revised version from the one that was shipped to stores. I have installed it and used the shell and backup programs and thus far have had no serious problems. Or even minor ones. I think that most that are having problems don't really understand what they are doing and are unwilling/unable to read the manuals to find out. But their messages seem to be running well ahead of MSDOS forum at this time. Not an admirable record to hold, I guess. Bill. There is 1 Reply. #: 7374 S2/DRDOS 02-Jul-91 09:02:31 Sb: #7358-who said drdos v5 @$29 Fm: Bob King 76244,24 To: Bill Hill, PC Wizard's W 70025,1621 (X) Bill - I think I knew what you were doing - just like to put out a little levity now & then. Keep up the good work. -Bob #: 7375 S2/DRDOS 02-Jul-91 09:02:37 Sb: #7362-who said drdos v5 @$29 Fm: Bob King 76244,24 To: Bill Hill, PC Wizard's W 70025,1621 (X) Bill - I was only passing on the rumor as to why PCT was shipping so late - but the word I got could not specify the exact nature of the bug reportedly discovered after release. Let us know how you fare with the new version. -Bob #: 7380 S2/DRDOS 02-Jul-91 11:57:39 Sb: #7361-#who said drdos v5 @$29 Fm: Michael Gillespie 70631,155 To: brian j. mullan 72247,1556 (X) Lemmings! There is 1 Reply. #: 7397 S2/DRDOS 02-Jul-91 18:00:57 Sb: #7352-drdos & GEM & qemm Fm: Steve McNabb 76703,615 To: #VCO,PB,DT,+ 74 73236,314 (X) Sure would be nice to know whom I am replying to. Include your name if you please. At this point, you do have to do some manual optimizing to get the most from EMM386 and Hidevice and Hiload commands. We do not have a specific command to optimize. I have heard that QEMM does not like our Cache or VDISK but have not verified that. I suspect if exiting GEM does not return you to where you cam from, you could put the command at the end of the GEM.BAT to make the system reload the menu. I do not know if Viewmax will get the iconediting functionality. I will suggest it though. Steve.. #: 7401 S2/DRDOS 02-Jul-91 19:01:08 Sb: #7380-who said drdos v5 @$29 Fm: brian j. mullan 72247,1556 To: Michael Gillespie 70631,155 (X) ok... lemmings. Thats a good one. #: 7471 S2/DRDOS 04-Jul-91 02:25:43 Sb: #7198-Slow DRDOS Fm: Loyd Clayton 73310,3505 To: Roland Hughes 71061,2160 (X) I do not use disk manager - do not even know what it is. Thanks for your reply. Aloha, -Loyd #: 7472 S2/DRDOS 04-Jul-91 02:26:56 Sb: #7316-Slow DRDOS Fm: Loyd Clayton 73310,3505 To: Steve McNabb 76703,615 (X) Thanks for the info. I have just finished downloading IBMBIO.ZIP and will look it over. Aloha, -Loyd